Monday, November 16, 2009

Australia and Refugees


http://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/current/index.html Should people who are victims of torture and trauma be exempted from taking a citizenship test? The government of Australia thinks so.
"People who have a “permanent or enduring physical or mental incapacity” will, from November 9, be exempted from the Australian Citizenship Test, following the passage of the Australian Citizenship Amendment (Citizenship Test Review and Other Measures) Bill through the Australian Parliament. Aimed primarily at providing a citizenship pathway for people who have suffered torture and trauma, particularly refugee and humanitarian entrants, this section of the Bill was amended following debate within the Senate Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee. The Bill originally provided for an exemption for people who had “suffered torture and trauma outside Australia”. The Coalition opposed this, suggesting in the Senate Committee’s report that the definition of trauma was so vague “it is almost meaningless and could open the floodgates”. The Greens argued (ultimately successfully) that the exemption be expanded to include people who have suffered significant trauma while in Australia, a position also put forward in the RCOA submission to the Committee. For more information, see the Minister's explanation of the legislation, information from the Senate Committee inquiry and RCOA's submission." What do you think?

26 comments:

  1. I think this is extremely wrong. People shouldn't be exempted by their raise especially if the person has any metal or physical problems. What right do the other people have over these people. They're normal humans just like any other person. THey should have the right to do what or people can do. If they want to be citizens they should be able to do so. The Australian government is honestly wrong and I don't agree in any way.

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  2. In my perspective this is extremely wrong. People shouldn't be exempted by their raise especially if the person has any metal or physical problems. How can they over come these people like this or why are they. They're normal humans just like any other human living on earth. They should have the right to do what or do what other people can do. If they want to be citizens they should be able to do so. The Australian government is honestly wrong and I don't agree in any way.

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  3. I strongly disagree that the Australian government. I think that it is very wrong that these victims are exempted from taking the test. It is just wrong that people that have been tortured aren't allowed to take the citizenship test, they are no different that everyone else in Australia so they shouldn't be treated differently or more poorly. Everyone needs to have equal rights to make a balanced government.

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  4. The Bill originally provided for an exemption for people who had “suffered torture and trauma outside Australia." I disagree with this. This is completely wrong. Everyone should take a citizenship test. Absolutely anyone, and I mean anyone, could be criminals. To be honest, I actually think the majority of people being tortured are troublemakers. The reason is, they are the ones that torturers feel most deserve to be tortured, so they will do bad things to the troublemakers as a way of teaching them lessons. Rather than being exempted, the victims of torture and trauma should be taken to court and asked, "Why did they torture you?" If the victim is not guilty, he or she should still take the Australian Citizenship Test. People will change their behaviors every once in a while.

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  5. In my opinion, I feel that this whole situation is wrong and that people should be taking the test. It would not be fair or equal for others to take the test and for an exception, others should not. I feel that this issue is completely wrong. Also, rather than being exempted, that person should for sure go to court and have to be asked a series of questions basically like a test. In other words, if they decide to exempt those people, the others by some law should have a chance to say what they feel is right for their system comparing it to being either is right and or wrong. The African government is wrong and I personally do not understand why they are doing this and making a big political issue about it.

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  6. In my opinion the Australian govenment are jerks and are selfish because they want to do this either for money or to exclude all criminals. I think that all Australian people should be fighting for these people's rights because they have done nothing wrong; in fact wrong has done them since the Australian government is being shady to people that are supposely minorites and are not human so they don't deserve to have equal righs? Know that is bs. This ain't cool but I have not heard of anyone doing something about this.

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  7. This exemption from taking a Citizenship Test is unfair to others. People that have a "permanent or enduring physical or mental incapacity" are being excused from taking the Citizenship Test. In real life we don't exclude these people from normal activities such as going to the park. Everyone has an equal chance of going. So should this Citizenship Test be any different? No, it shouldn't. According to the Citizenship Test Review Committee some "disadvantaged and vulnerable migrants could not sit and pass a citizenship test due to some form of incapacity." They found that since they mentally couldn't pass the test they simply excluded them from taking the test.
    "The changes will provide an exemption from the test for people who have a permanent or enduring physical or mental incapacity which means they are not capable of meeting all the legal requirements for conferral of Australian citizenship." Just because these people can no longer think straight does not mean they can be excluded from this test. The reason behind their retardation is their own business which they may have deserved, but this shouldn't stop them taking a simple Citizenship test.

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  8. I think that this is unfair, however I do understand where the Australian government is coming from, as some people from other countries may not have been educated from there original country, or may have learning dissabilities and are not able to take the test, however, this is unfair to other people who are perfectly fine but still have to take the test. Becoming a citizen of a new country is very hard and takes a long period of time, so the people that have to take the test are unfortunate because it will take them a very long time to do so.

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  9. We think Australia is right because people that are traumatized need time to recover and learn about the new country they are about to live in. If traumatized people or victims of torture are forced to take the citizenship test, they might fail because they aren't sure about the language or culture. So giving them time will help them pass the test. We don't think it's right to make a person that has never been in a different country except for their own take a citizenship test when they probably don't know any of the answers.

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  10. Michelle3, Haley3, Gillian3November 24, 2009 at 10:07 AM

    In my opinion, I believe this is unfair and everyone should take the test. It not fair for certain people to take the test, and other not to because of disabilities. Disabled people participate in normal activities in everyday life, and I don't think they should be treated any differently.

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  11. Just reading this blog makes me have a feeling of sadness in me because even though we may have metal or physical problems in us we should still have the same rights as everyone else. How I view it as the Australian Government is being racist in my eyes because they are judging people by hoe they are and that is not right.

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  12. In my perspective this is extremely wrong. People shouldn't be exempted by their raise especially if the person has any metal or physical problems. How can they over come these people like this or why are they. They're normal humans just like any other human living on earth. They should have the right to do what or do what other people can do. If they want to be citizens they should be able to do so. The Australian government is honestly wrong and I don't agree in any way.

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  13. kendall3, rachel3, dominic3, casey3November 24, 2009 at 10:32 AM

    We highly disagree with the Australian government. We think that it is totally and completely unfair to exempt just a select people from taking the test. It is wrong that people who have been tortured and treated unfairly cannot take the test, they are no different that everyone else in Australia so they should be treated what they are; equal. Everyone deserves equal rights and it is a necessity element in a stable government.

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  14. Paige, Carlos, Sean, Lauren, AndresNovember 24, 2009 at 1:15 PM

    We think that just because people have endured trauma in their life, doesn't mean that they have an excuse to not take the test. The government should create different tests that trauma victims can understand. It all depends on the situation of the victim. It's a bad thing that people have been mentally or physically traumatized, but they can still attempt to take the test, or have someone legally do it for them. We disagree with the government of Australia.

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  15. Mandy5,Noelani5,Donna5November 24, 2009 at 1:19 PM

    We believe that excusing people from taking a citizenship test that have been victims of torture and assault is wrong. It's not fair for people who have to take the test. Yes, it is an unfortunate thing, and yes, we all have sympathy and compassion for those people, but it is necessary for people to pass the citizen test. The citizen test proves that you know enough about the history and laws of your country. If someone doesn't take the test, it doesn't help anyone.

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  16. Garrett15, Conner5, Ricardo5, Reese5November 24, 2009 at 1:19 PM

    We think that Australia is being very kind for letting the refugees in without being citizens. The problem is that the country could be easily overrun by these refugees. These refugees would find it hard to be hired by the Australian business owners. So the refugees would be forced to resort to a life of crime and violence to make a living. Which would deduce the quality of life for the Australian people who had earned their citizenship. We think that the refugees should be able to stay temporarily in the country, and then have to take a test to prove their citizenship.

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  17. I strongly disagree with what Australia Government is doing what there doing. Their goevernment should treat everyone in Austrailia equal. It shouldnt matter about their past. Its not about harming the government it's about those people who are and where hurt from what happen to them in the past, Australia Government shouldnt take it out on them for others mistakes!

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  18. Matthew 5, Brian 5, Eric 5November 25, 2009 at 10:41 AM

    I think this is very wrong. It is really unfair for the people who have to take the test because it isn't there fault they don't have had any rough times during their lives. The Australian government has to realize that these people who are victims have gone through a rough time in their life, but that doesn't give them the right to be excused from the citizenship test. They have to be in the position of people who don't have any physical or mental incapacity and realize how unfair it is to these people. Hopefully the government will get rid of this amendment quickly before this debate gets worse. The bill, however, has already been passed and might not be able to be reversed.

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  19. daniel, reese, kevin, andres5December 2, 2009 at 1:20 PM

    i think its wrong to do this. i think the australian government has to realize that the victims have been going through hard times throughout their lives. i think they should still be able to take the citizenship test. i think that their government has to try to put himself in their situation to see how he would feel if i wasnt able to take the citizenship test.

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  20. I think it is not a good idea. People who have not had trauma on their lives have to take the test but it is not their fault that they had a good life and not a hard life. People who have had trauma should have to take the test because they are just like other people but just with a harder life and a rough past. Everyone should have to take the test if they wish to be a citizen of that country.

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  21. I disagree with Austrialia government Citizenship Test because a lot of people been through hard time. For example most of the people suffered torture and trauma outside Australia. Also the government should treat people equally. They should make another plan instead of the dumb Citizenship Test Review and Other Measures. If they work together they would not face a lot of problems. :)

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  22. The Australian government Citizenship Test is wrong. People who have been through a hard time, should not be treated like they are some kind of a bad person. Just because someone is traumatized they should not be treated differently. These people may need help, but everyone should be treated equally. If these people get help they can get through it.

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  23. it is kind of not fair that the people who have suffered from trauma and torture are exempted from taking the citizenship test, and the people who have not suffered from trauma or torture still have to take the Citizenship test. they should be treated equally

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  24. People with problems should be treated better. If some one has trama then you hALF TO nice to them. Trama can really effect your life in many ways. It is not fair to treat them poorly if any thing they should be treated special because of there problems. The goverment should let them take the citizens test.

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  25. People who have issues with trauma and torture should be treated the same. They have problems that they need to deal with that most people wouldn't understand. I think that they should even maybe be treated better then most people would. Just because they have been through trauma and torture doesn't mean that they should be treated poorly.

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  26. I strongly disagree that the Australian government. I think that every one should be treated equally and if any thing they should go easy on people with mental disabilities.

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