Saturday, August 24, 2013

Egypt Struggles for Control

This certainly makes us think about authority and control.  As we study the origins of democracy, we can analyze why this country is being torn apart as they struggle with authority and control.  What co-relations can you draw between this 2013 Egyptian and the Colonists in 1789 in the US?  If you use another source, cite your source.

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  1. The people in Egypt are mad at the current president because since being elected he has been doing unconstitutional things and taking away the democracy and implementing more and more of the Muslim Brotherhood in the constitution. These actions have caused a military coup and the overthrowing of the current president. This correlates to the colonists in the United States in 1789 the current parliament was removed and the first President of the United States was elected. At this time nationalists replaced the governing Articles of Confederation to strengthen the government with powers of defense and taxation with the Constitution of the United States. The changes made in 1789 are still in effect today. This is what the people of Egypt are hoping happens with the current Coup, that a President is elected who listen to the people and implement a true democracy

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  2. The Egyptians are upset with their current president because after being elected he started to do the opposite of what he said he would do and he also started being very dishonest and going against the constitution.The president is also taking away the ability of the people ruling themselves and he kept adding more rules.And because of the presidents actions the military was forced to go in and get rid of the president. But, if the military stays in command the democracy for egypt will cease to exist.In 1789 the US colonists had their parliament removed and soon after the first president was elected and he created a democracy.During this time they had brought in new parliaments that implimented more democracy for the people.In Egypt 2013 the egyptians are hoping to elect a president like the first US president that will keep their word and create a proper democracy so they don't need to go through this problem again.

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  3. Between the Egyptians in 2013, and the Americans in 1789 there are a lot of differences and similarities. The Egyptians had been accustomed to a prior form of government where the military ruled the country and government but the Egyptians wanted to change the system into a democratic system, and finally got their wish within the past couple years. The Americans, however, in 1789 had been used to a government system for at least 10 years and then the colonists felt that they had to completely separate from the English rules and traditions so they called for, what we know today as, the American Revolution. The difference is that the Americans had the feeling of freedom for over 10 years where as the Egyptians had just had a little taste of freedom but now they want change again and it has cost many lives in the Egyptian society.

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  4. I believe that both Egypt and the early US colonists had difficulty with control over their lands because of their governments. For example, in this video, it shows how the Egyptians are happy there will be a new government, due to the replacement of its corrupt members. From the 1713s to 1783, the British monitored America,keeping it within their grasp with rules and regulations such as constant taxing, their ability to reclaim your land, and closing harbors when they please. Both Egyptians and Americans have had enough, and demanded change through constant protests. Although, Egypt has not gone through a civil war like the Americans did (if you count the British as partial Americans), it might if someone or something might set of the flame, like the Boston Massacre. I know this all happened BEFORE 1789, but it is almost similar to this subject, and I just wanted to point that out. ANYWAYS, colonists in 1789 were similar to the Egyptian protestors in that they both are struggling to form a civilization, a community, a trust worthy government that won't stab you in the back, or make meaningless decisions. In 1789, America was still recovering from the Revolutionary war; rebuilding homes, regrowing crops, and of course colonizing the natives. In Egypt now, the people are going to begin recovering from the poverty and lack of education if the new democracy/government is successful. Another benefit we will gain is that we won't need to send soldiers to Egypt to keep the peace, and instead to somewhere they ARE needed. (maybe Africa, since they are more in need than any country else)

    So yeah, that's my opinion, it might be wrong, but I wrote it.

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  5. the people of Egypt didn't like their government so they protested for months for new leadership. They finally was able to get rid of the ruler and start a new demoncratic government. The new president didn't listen to the people so they wanted him out of office. The people just want better rights and a government that will listen to them.

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  6. The people of Egypt are upset with the president. They are upset with president because since he has been named president he has done so many unconstitutional things and taking away democracy. the things he has done provoked a military coup. The changes made back in 1789 still have affect today. This president should've had listened the people so everything would be calmer.

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  7. The Egyptians had the coup because they wanted to overthrow president Morsi because of all the horrible decisions he was making. In doing so, they were hoping to get a better president who will listen to the people like a democracy should be. This is a direct correlation to the American coup of 1789 for they wanted to end Britain's control in America because they were invading their homes, taking land, and mis-treating the civilians. These are the reasons why the Americans had a coup. once they took control, they decided to changed some rules in the constitution clearly saying who can do what and who controls who/what.

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  8. I think that Egypt has some major trust issues. I think that it is weird for them to ellect their president, who THEY wanted and then go and kick him out. I also think that Egypt has a lot of trouble keeping control of their land because they have government issues. I understand that someone might dislike their leader, but they voted for them and chose to have him rule their country so why not trust him and his desisions. I dont think it is fair for them to kick out their leader when they were so happy to have him come into office.

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  9. In Egypt the citizens are angry at the president because he brought in an Islamist way of thinking and ruling. By the president doing this, the military decided to take action into there own hands and had a coup, which then overthrew the president. Now the government is in charge and the united states is worried that the new leader could break the allies ship that we have with them and this could cause many problems. this is very much like what happened in 1789 when the US colonists had their parliament removed. both Egypt and the us had to fight for what they knew was right. the people of Egypt are hoping by doing this there new president will listen to the issues at hand and hopefully solve them.

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  10. As seen in the video the Egyptian president has been re-placed/removed for adding new laws that strengthened the "Muslim Brother Hood" which the people didn't like, because it was leading to a more Islamic rule then a democratic one. Therefor the Egyptian military has taken over the government temporarily until there is a new re-election that's why they were celebrating. The colonies are similar to this because the British government didn't allow the common people of the colonies the basic right that we have now, like not having you're property taken away in order for the military to have a place to make food for their soldiers or having them stay there. They didn't have a word in the policies that were going around them,also the British parliament enforced taxes on the colonist that may have been used for the mainland England,and not supporting the colonies. Ex:The king just lost a war against France in order to defend it self, but doesn't want to tax it's nobles so they take the money from the colonies to pay for their loses/damages.

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  11. The revolution in Egypt has been caused by some of the same reasons that the war in 1789 was fought for. In Egypt, the president tried to force his Islamic laws and ways upon the whole of the country. This is like when the king of England tried to force the church of England on the colonies. So both the present day Egyptians and Americans from 1789 took maters in their own hands and expressed there distaste for these forcing's upon them. Also in Egypt the president wasn't really doing the things he was elected to do, things he promised the Egyptians elected him for, so the military went in at the request of the people, and kicked the president out of office. They wanted to have their voices heard in the matter of the way they wished to be governed. which is the same thing the Americans did for their independence.

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  12. i cannot see any similarities between Egypt and the colonists of 1789 except that they both want rights. The former Presidant of Egypt, Mubarak, was taking away rights like the right to a fair trial and the right to vote. He was becoming more like a dictator. The Egyptian people wanted a change from Mubarak's increasing tyranny. The colonists that wanted to break from England wanted to have complete freedom from another country. They wanted no coneection. The colonists were looking for freedoms that had not been seen or granted before, like civil freedoms. Curently the military is now in control of the Egyptian government as in the colonists Gorge Washington was elected presadent

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  13. The people of Egypt didn't like their government because he is not doing the things he said he was going to do for Egypt. He was basically taking away the democracy and adding his own rules. Since he did that, the effect was that the military had to step in and stop him. Now Egypt hopes that they get a new president and hopes that he fulfills his duty by making a complete democracy so this incident wouldn't happen again.

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